In an extensive three-hour interview with podcast host Joe Rogan, former President Donald Trump tackled a range of topics from election integrity and political rivalries to environmental concerns. Recorded Friday night, the session was part of Trump’s unconventional media approach, aiming to reach voters through platforms like Rogan’s popular podcast. Although Trump was delayed to his subsequent rally in Michigan, resulting in some supporters leaving early, his interview has garnered significant public attention.

The interview featured Trump reiterating his familiar stance on the 2020 election, which he has repeatedly claimed was rigged, though without substantial evidence. When Rogan challenged him on these claims, Trump’s response centered around what he deemed inappropriate changes to election laws during the pandemic. According to Trump, election procedures were altered without proper legislative approval, compromising their legitimacy. Rogan pressed Trump for specific examples, but Trump’s answer was notably indirect, focusing on the general need for fair elections.

Trump also addressed current global issues, including the Ukraine war, which he claimed would not have escalated under his leadership. He criticized both mainstream media and his political rival, Vice President Kamala Harris, whom he described as a threat to the nation’s stability. Trump’s rhetoric about Harris, whom he has increasingly disparaged at campaign rallies, has drawn criticism from both political allies and opponents who argue such comments may incite dangerous hostility.

The interview took an unusual turn when Trump discussed his views on the environment. He voiced concerns about wind turbines’ effects on wildlife, particularly whales, adding that “whale psychiatrists” should investigate the issue. This topic aligns with Trump’s long-standing disapproval of renewable energy sources like wind power, which he argues harm both the environment and economic growth. His comments reflect a recurring theme in his campaign: opposition to policies he believes hinder American industry.

Throughout the interview, Rogan’s questions aimed to challenge Trump’s views without taking a strong stance. In one instance, Rogan corrected Trump’s comments on life on Mars, a topic that deviated from political discussions and led to light-hearted banter. Rogan’s neutral stance on political endorsements was evident, though he did highlight the controversies surrounding his own show, which has faced criticism for spreading misinformation.

Trump’s appearance on Rogan’s podcast underscores his continued reliance on nontraditional media to reach voters, a tactic that contrasts with Harris, who declined an interview with Rogan due to scheduling conflicts. As Election Day approaches, Trump’s media strategy signals an effort to bypass mainstream outlets, engaging audiences directly on platforms popular among young men and politically independent listeners.